I was afraid from the photo that it would be long, but I measured the 13 inches on the 874 and it fit me (the full name is 13" Loose Fit Flat Front Work Shorts). When I wore it, I actually thought "874 in shorts". Then I wore them back to back and saw that the shorts are slightly higher-waisted and slightly narrower. If you wear them "normally" and you are around 180, they barely cover the knee. If you want to wear them low, then you will definitely need a larger size, and they will come out as capris.